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Post by xXx_Yami_Uzumaki_xXx on Jul 12, 2016 17:18:45 GMT
I guess fundamentally, all other arguments aside, we are claerly obvs never going to agree jamie cos i dont believe in god! Hey an update on operation wolfbounce everyone: SO it worked i have saved the lives of wolves  it was actually fine, zomg it worked well, nets held, no wolves escaped, collected nicely into lviestock transport vans, released in the wild. it was a natural park but theres also plenty of meat around for them to eat anywawy. the only thing is if the current rates of wolfdrop increase then it might be difficult to get onto the roads, the motorways have those big scraping bulldozer things but ive heard its all congealed and sticky now. Anyway some fewer corpses on the ground Im planning to take this BIG Does aynone have friends they can recruit to help us over the next week? With the first experients, and ive taken photos, i can prove that nets works and we can work with companies that would donate nets and authorities to establish nets and funnels over key areas. im thinking over high streets and etnrances to hospital and stuff so that people can move without being hit by wolves in the most essential places first. the problem is that all these nets generate live wolves (well obv the sky generates them but anyway), however, with appropriate funnel systems into vans and livestock transport vehicles, even comfortable drops (we used cushions as padding from childrens soft play areas) into ground-based containment areas. then we can transport them to safe areas. I reckon we should evacuate islands like the isle of man and the isle of wight and transfer lots of wolves there, however i am not actually in cahrge of anything other than a few acres of forest, the childrens educational tours three times a week and the monitoring of a water vole breeding population, so this is a little ambitious lol. BUT with everything going on like this people arent at work right? and therefore can help setting up nets and drivign wolves places?? i mean even if you dont like wolves you cant be against htis plan! fewer corpses, cleaner areas, and the wolves even eat the decaying meat!! WHOSE WITH ME?? This is...less terrible than the previous incarnation of the plan. But you would need massive governmental support; I don't know how you'd get it. Write to your MP? Fundamentally though there's no point in doing this if we don't also work to eliminate the source of the problem. |
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Post by yasminulfsson on Jul 12, 2016 17:26:19 GMT
Thats very true Yami Yugi. however im not sure i can help with solving the problem - i literally dont know how to help. BUT im rather damn sure that by the end of next week i can make some safe (well at least as safe as we can get them) public spaces and save some wolves. "less terrible" lol thanks  Ill write to my MP and also some newspapers, but, with enough people power we can do this aynway, im a big believer in grassroots movements and say we get fifty volunteers to erect nets and funnels over the several hundreds of metres squared around the entrances to e.g. UCL, then drive the wolves away, nobodys going to prosecute right? I mean the police wouldnt be against us. And once people see it working, we can send photos to the press and then the newspapersll be on our side and then politicians will be like "yeah this is the way forward". I mean obvs if it goes badly wrong and ppl get eaten then ill have to go into hiding. but i have quite good bushcraft skills so yeah willing to take the risk,y ou know how long bureaucracy takes and how politicians might not touch anything in case it fails here. Im really seeing something here though. We can set up a field (like you can get portable fences like for festivals and events and livestock shows, except wolves can jump metres into the air so tall ones) that the nets funnel into and then we can have an enclosure. and i love wovles i can give talks to people about how great they are naturally AND we can drag dead wolf bodies from nearby streets to dump into the enclsoure. like im generally against cannibalism but thats mostly in humans. i dont think it will harm the wolves and it kills two birds with one stone (i dont like that expresssion.) wait can wolves get mad cow disease? |
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Post by sparkledog97 on Jul 12, 2016 18:40:24 GMT
So like... each individual wolf needs kind of a lot of territory and prey to sustain it. Food pyramids are a thing. If the drops are just getting faster, I don't know if this is sustainable.
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Post by yasminulfsson on Jul 12, 2016 21:46:06 GMT
Sparkledog, it isn't  not in the long run. However, at least for the next few weeks (which I know is a big IF but like EVERYTHING has cahnged in 3 weeks hasnt' it?? like my sister's kids are not sitting gcses cos the school's closed, granma's shoulder operation got cancelled, insurance companies have changed all their policies to exclude wolfdrop-related mishap and all the news channels are blathering about "WOLF DROP '16" (like there's ever been another one??!) so like at least for the next few weeks weve got enough. there's so much meat. so much meat. and afterwards, we can sort out like what wolves are going to scandninavia and northern america and the isle of skye etc. if the drops keep getting faster, theres no way well be able to catch them all anyway zomg what a disaster like i really wanted wolves back in scotland but not like this  |
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Post by pumpernickel on Jul 12, 2016 23:08:11 GMT
So like I still don't see the Skye thing working because there is a bridge and I'm pretty sure wolves can get over bridges just like people can, right, but there are other islands without bridges so maybe that could work if we could get them onto ferries which actually doesn't sound that easy either
hmm
plus all those places are like really far away from London and we don't have a way to get the wolves there...
ooh
unless we could like make them head *up* the motorways that are currently shut? I guess we'd have to move them a bit at a time with fencing round the motorway and stuff but a) they would eat some of the dead wolves on the way and b) while we were doing that we could set up more nets over motorways to try to keep the national road network open as much as possible.
It's gonna take a lot of work though.
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Post by will0thewisp on Jul 13, 2016 5:01:30 GMT
I can see if my Greenpeace friends can join in! Sorry I didn't help this week, I was ill with a bad flu! Do we need more tubes, etc? |
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Post by sparkledog97 on Jul 13, 2016 11:47:00 GMT
Also, I've said this like twice already but wolves are pretty good swimmers so if you're really going for the island idea, just not having a bridge won't be enough.
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Post by will0thewisp on Jul 15, 2016 7:06:04 GMT
Yasmin, please email me and we can make more solid plans/a checklist of things we need!!! willow_breese@wolfdroponline.chaosdeathfish.com
P.S. Anyone else who is interested can also email me!
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Post by yasminulfsson on Jul 15, 2016 17:54:08 GMT
Sparkledog: I know, wolves can swim, however they wouldn't unless they had a good reason, like naturally if they were on n island with all their needs being met they wouldn't swim out I don't think, it's like survival instinct to swim for e.g. food or warmth but otherwise why would you? Anyway I know it's not ideal but really what choice do we have? All these majestic wolves dying and every life matters! Sparkledog could you help? Maybe you can bring some vet tranquilliser for when we heard the wolves from the containment areas to the vans? Edgar Ru helping again Willow messaged u x |
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Post by pumpernickel on Jul 16, 2016 8:56:56 GMT
Oops sorry was offline for a bit (seems harder to find pubs with free wifi in London that don't chase me out when I don't buy anything) - yeah I'll help again if I can. Have messaged you, Willow, hope it's not too late to include me in the plans!
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Post by sparkledog97 on Jul 16, 2016 10:39:23 GMT
Sparkledog: I know, wolves can swim, however they wouldn't unless they had a good reason, like naturally if they were on n island with all their needs being met they wouldn't swim out I don't think, it's like survival instinct to swim for e.g. food or warmth but otherwise why would you? Anyway I know it's not ideal but really what choice do we have? All these majestic wolves dying and every life matters! Sparkledog could you help? Maybe you can bring some vet tranquilliser for when we heard the wolves from the containment areas to the vans? Edgar Ru helping again Willow messaged u x They do swim for fun and to stay cool, too. I guess the main concern is if the island starts getting too full, you'll get wolves spilling off looking for somewhere less stressful. Also I've already said I'm gonna spend my time talking to, um, "old internet friends" looking into Actual Wolf Magic, and I can't exactly stuff the Petsworth Pets van full of tranquillisers and just give it to someone. Sorry.  |
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Post by yasminulfsson on Jul 19, 2016 16:38:19 GMT
That didn't go to well Sparkledog I think you might be right, there are to many of them to save!! !! |
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Post by pumpernickel on Jul 20, 2016 21:38:48 GMT
We need a new plan. I don't think I can really help with figuring out where they're coming from, I'm not that kind of smart guy, but maybe there's better ways to help clear all the corpses off the roads and stuff?
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Post by jamie on Jul 21, 2016 9:09:00 GMT
We need a new plan. I don't think I can really help with figuring out where they're coming from, I'm not that kind of smart guy, but maybe there's better ways to help clear all the corpses off the roads and stuff? You need to stop seeing His wolves as a problem, and start seeing them for the great gift which He has given them as. A problem must be dealt with by the few, but a gift can be accepted by the many. If you can bring great numbers into His light and persuade them to feast upon His wolves then your problem will go away. |
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Post by pumpernickel on Jul 21, 2016 10:15:55 GMT
Okay, but great numbers of what? I mean, I was kind of hoping all the wolves we managed to keep alive would eat all the dead ones and solve the problem that way but it doesn't really work if the number falling is going up exponentially and surely neither does the idea of anything else eating them because like human populations don't grow fast enough? I mean, I'd be more than happy to eat wolf stew (though I don't think I can make it on my camping stove really) but one little me isn't going to make much difference to anything.
Oh unless we used like insects or maggots or whatever that can breed really quickly and so could also grow exponentially but... I feel like that would be a whole new problem and people might be annoyed.
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